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Poster: Rings&Bells Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:05am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

While I don't think he's been our most competent leader ever, I don't think he deserves ALL of the crap that he gets. That being said, I am interested to see what unfolds over the next few months.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:43am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

A debate that will never resolve.

There are 12 real "criminals" in our country, more insidious than anyone has any idea about. Our wonderful cabal called the Federal Reserve. I don't know if anyone else caught this, but google Alan Grayson-Fed Vice Chair Kohn and watch Grayson eviscerate Kohn.

Kohn refused to answer Grayson's question as to the disposition of $1.2T of your money (and mine). Hmmmm, could it be that the Creature From Jekyll Island sunk money into 100% worthless mortgage backed securities and derivatives? And that the $1.2T is gone? Unless you count the "confidence and sentiment" purchased. The Fed propped an insolvent banking industry up on our backs and we don't even know it. The debt to GDP ratio now stands at 320% (counting Federal, State, Municipal, Corporate and Personal debt).

We have not seen such a ratio since 1929. Shit, at least back then debt was somewhat fixed then and the cause of the increased ratio was due to economic contraction.

But I digress.

Oh yeah, non-Dead................

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:07am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

Ever read William Greider's "Secrets of the Temple: How the Federal Reserve Runs the Country"? ... and Paul Volker is back in the saddle again...

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Poster: Earl B. Powell Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

...as long as Greenspan keeps his distance. The poster bastard for the phrase "idiot savant."

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:14am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

I keep waiting for the Andrea Mitchell "investigative" piece on Greenspan, but I figure it will never come (until after his burial). Oh well....

...and in full agreement w/ the sentiment about him.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:10am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

BD - I have a library of 'horror' novels. I have Greider's book, but haven't read it yet.

Currently working through "The Fourth Turning", "Demise of the Dollar" and "Financial Armageddon".

Just finished "Creature From Jekyll Island" and Twilight In The Desert"

Pretty sobering shit - Fourth Turning and Financial Armageddon are giving/gave me nightmares. When you consider that China recently internationalized the yuan and the Gulf Cooperation Council (4-5 oil producing states) just implemented their own common, gold backed currency (the kaleej) and announced that starting in 2010 they will only accept gold or the kaleej for their oil (we get 12-15% of our oil from that group) can anyone help but conclude that the dollar dominos are starting to fall?

And the two worst criminals (Paulson and Bernanke) advocate (with the near unanimous support of the House and Senate) "spending" our way out of this hole??? A fucking hole created by excessive spending?????? We are screwed.

You and I only have two options regarding our debt - 1. Pay it off or 2. Default.

Apparently the government has added a third option - 3. Print so much freaking money we'll inflate the debt away.

I sincerely wish Obama the best. Even though I didn't vote for him, around noon today he became MY President and as such has my faithful support. I don't think he has a true idea of the scope of the impending economic collapse this country is headed for.

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jan 21, 2009 10:17am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

Some things Obama said in his Inaugural speech hinted that he maybe does have a clue to the cause of America's financial woes. Hope he does and that he has the strength and will to act on it. Monetary Reform Now!!

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Poster: johnnyonthespot Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:19am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

" While I don't think he's been our most competent leader ever,"

there's an understatement if ever I heard one. As far as I can see the guy was a silver spoon drunken frat boy who F'd up everything he ever touched.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:37am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

well, that silver spoon came in handy when he reached for the blow....

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:24am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

true words sir, true words

and yeah, i pray and wish the best to Pres Obama - what a tough road he has to start out his journey. I think he is going to try his best and is a dedicated American (so far)

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

This stood out to me in the speech today.

"...know that your people will judge you on what you can build, not what you destroy."

Buh, bye, Bush...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:57am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

good quote

i will be interested to read the speech - i have not been able to watch it today - am looking forward to hearing/reading what he had to say though.

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Jan 20, 2009 10:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

Somewhere in storage I have an old tape of an interiview with Jerry, that carries almost exactly the same sentiment. As an artist, and a creator of "things", it has always stood out as a good way to justify why I continue to plow forward as an artist. I've been fortunate enough to eek out a meager living as an artist, but the past few years has been a real challenge. Wonder if Obama heard the same tape?...

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:34am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

that would be pretty cool if he did :)


what medium is your art?? music? painting? writing?? just curious

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:36am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

I'm a potter. Don't make anything weird (anymore). Make useful things for cooking and serving food. Google me if you like, no secret screen name here.

Just thought since the Dead were playing the inauguration tonight. Our new Preznit may have a stash of tapes somewhere. Almost word for word from what I remember from the Jerry interview.

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Poster: direwolf0701 Date: Jan 20, 2009 11:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

damn dude!!!! that is some SWEET work!! i love the cut bowls - very very attractive piece - both color and shape. (naturally i am assuming i have the correct site (afton, ny?)

i'm serious - very very nice work - thanks for pointing out your webpage

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Poster: CPettingill Date: Jan 20, 2009 1:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: He's Gone...a musical farewell

You got it, that's us, and thanks. Been a long time working in the mud. Better than slingin' it, I like to say. There's a lot of us artist types out there that are hanging on by our fingernails. A lot of discussion going around is that arts and crafts are the future of the new economy. We actually make something... tangible in the good ol' U. S. of A... and we're proud of our work and stand by it.

One of the reasons I'm going to see the Dead this spring. Although I can hardly afford it, I like to support other artists. Not that any of them have ever bought pottery from me, but friends of mine have sold a few of the members of the Dead art over the years. One has a credit card slip with Jerome Garcia's signature framed in his living room.